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• • • • • • • • -:: Author Message ConnCoprion Heavyweight Member Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 1617 Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: Martin Committee vs. Martin Committee trumpets are nice by themselves, but is there really a difference between the 'regular' committee and the Deluxe model, besides the engraving on the bell? Philippians 1:6 amazingmoris Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 710 Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Martin Committee vs. ConnCoprion wrote: Martin Committee trumpets are nice by themselves, but is there really a difference between the 'regular' committee and the Deluxe model, besides the engraving on the bell? Apparently the difference was only cosmetic: “The Committee came is at least two models, a DeLuxe which had nickel silver slides, and the standard” - “It will depend on what model of Committee it is. The Deluxe (brass with nickel-silver trim and engraving) commands a higher price than the Standard model (all brass).” - 'Martin Committee Deluxe Trumpet (1950's): this model had nickel silver trim and additional floral engraving on bell' - 'A Deluxe version of the Committee was also made with nickel silver slides and parts.'

Landress Brass Veteran Member Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 275 Location: New York City Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: A true deluxe will also have DELUXE engraved on the mouthpiece receiver. Josh Landress J. Landress Brass, LLC. 153 West 36th Street 3rd Floor, NY, NY 10018 Shop: 646-922-7126 Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: Having owned several of each, I can tell you the 'regular' (all brass) Committee seems to have the best sound.

The 'Deluxe' models are waaay over-rated. People still are willing to pay more for them (Deluxe models), for some reason. 'I pity the fool' - Mister 'T', from the TV show, 'The A-Team' Yr fthfl Srvnt, Robt Love animals. Don't eat them. I miss Genghis Khan.

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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 701 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: The difference of a 'regular' committee and a 'deluxe' is purely cosmetic. There are a few deluxe committees from certain years that don't have 'deluxe' printed on the lead pipe-from my expierence there is no difference in sound between a deluxe and a regular. There is a difference from horn to horn-I've had 3 #3 bore committee and found then all to have a different feel and sound. I have been told by sax players that this is also true of vintage mark 6 tenors as well. That's my.02 anyway!

Schilke Handcraft HC1 Couesnon Paris Flugelhorn Bob Reeves Mouthpiece Sleeves/PVA facebook.com/billortizmusic twitter.com/billortizmusic intrepidpooch Heavyweight Member Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 733 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: J. Landress Brass wrote: A true deluxe will also have DELUXE engraved on the mouthpiece receiver. They started engraving the mouthpiece receiver with the word DELUXE in 1956, prior to that it was left blank on deluxe models. Ray Callender sounds7 Heavyweight Member Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 584 Location: New Orleans Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:29 pm Post subject: As others here have stated, It is just more bling to have the nickel siver slides. 47 Martin Committee #3 52 Olds Recording Courtois 301 Orchestra C Harrelson VPS Summit One Harrelson VPS 'Lotus Custom' MAW Valves Harrelson mod Flugel zackh411 Heavyweight Member Joined: 17 May 2011 Posts: 1886 Location: Saint Louis MO Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: The difference is NOT just cosmetic. The deluxe models tend to have less of a dark sound. Thus less of the 'true committee sound.'

I have played 2 of them. Both were fine horns, though one had some intonation issues with top space E. Neither of them sounded as good as my 'regular, non-deluxe' committee. Zack Lead Piece: Custom PickettBrass Jazz Piece: Custom Curry TC Legit Piece: Yamaha Shew Jazz (18 Drill) James Becker Heavyweight Member Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2235 Location: Littleton, MA Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:45 am Post subject: I'm with Robert and Zack on this one, The playing qualities of all brass vs nickel on brass can be significant. No doubt the name 'Deluxe' suggests you get more than the all brass Committee models, especially when you dress it up with nickel trim and fancy engraving.

Surely the added cost of material and highly skilled engravers justified a higher price by the manufactuerer. That being said, it all boils down to what sound compliments your musical goals. It's been said 'Some people listen with their eyes.'

James Becker Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977 Osmun Music Inc. 77 Powdermill Road Rt.62 Acton, MA 01720 Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 701 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:47 am Post subject: Hi Zackh411, that post of mine is an old one- since that post I've played both the regular and Deluxe versions enough to agree with your post. The Deluxe in fact do play brighter and also with a bit more resistance due to the nickel plating. Schilke Handcraft HC1 Couesnon Paris Flugelhorn Bob Reeves Mouthpiece Sleeves/PVA facebook.com/billortizmusic twitter.com/billortizmusic VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7068 Location: Greenfield WI Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: Bill Ortiz wrote: due to the nickel plating. It's actually nickel-silver tubing almost all the time and certainly in the case of these Martins.

I asked Charlie Melk about that as I preferred the all-brass Model 228 Lightweight 400 to the brass and nickel-silver Model 217 Lightweight 400 and he told me that they will indeed sound different but it's difficult to predict. However, as I remember him saying, you won't see orchestra players using horns with nickel-silver tubing, they will be all brass. I do have a horn with a nickel-silver mouthpipe, but that one plays as it does because of the tapers more than anything else, which I am sure is true with most instruments.

That said, the nickel-silver does have an effect on the sound. Tom Buescher Lightweight 400 Other Buescher horns 1939-1955 GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 701 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: You are correct Tom, it's nickel-silver:) Schilke Handcraft HC1 Couesnon Paris Flugelhorn Bob Reeves Mouthpiece Sleeves/PVA facebook.com/billortizmusic twitter.com/billortizmusic Def Trumpet Veteran Member Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 351 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: I used to own both versions. While they were very similar, there were some clear differences. My all brass model was a bit older, but the horns were only separated by a few years so I found the differences interesting. The deluxe felt lighter in my hand, had a slightly different bell taper in my opinion and for some reason seemed to have a slightly larger diameter mouthpiece receiver (don't know if that was from wear or design.) My all brass version was restored by Charlie Melk and so is one of my regular horns to play. I will also say that there was a difference in sound between the two.

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My all brass Committee does seem to get a lot of core, where as the deluxe had a bit more spread. It was a difficult choice to sell the deluxe as I very much liked how it played.

NY Bach Strad 42 MV Bach Strad 37 Martin Committee ACB 3CS shmojoe Veteran Member Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 215 Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Martin Committee vs. Committees do not play or sound the same to me Large Bore Deluxe, with or without DELUXE stamp on the mouthpiece reciver sound better than regular ConnCoprion wrote: Martin Committee trumpets are nice by themselves, but is there really a difference between the 'regular' committee and the Deluxe model, besides the engraving on the bell? Intrepidpooch Heavyweight Member Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 733 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: The standard Committees had a heavier/thicker bell than the Deluxe models. I think that has a lot to do with the fact that the standard Committees tend to a have a warmer/darker sound than the Deluxe models.

That said, being primarily a small group player I prefer that warmer, more vocal sound. The previous poster said he prefers the sound of the Deluxe and if I were a lead player trying to cut through a loud big band I probably would too (not saying that's what he does necessarily). However, I do play a good number of commercial and big band gigs and my standard Martin does just fine for those purposes (although not as good as my Schilke did). Ray Callender rockinrobbies New Member Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 10 Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:04 pm Post subject: 1954 Martin Committee Trumpets are cool MK Last edited by rockinrobbies on Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:23 pm; edited 1 time in total LittleRusty Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 10255 Location: Santa Clara, Ca Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 Martin Committee rockinrobbies wrote: Trumpets are cool MK As a retailer of instruments you might want to read the sticky at the top of the horns forum about selling in the forum. Last edited by LittleRusty on Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:21 pm; edited 1 time in total rockinrobbies New Member Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 10 Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:22 pm Post subject: Oops - sorry guys Oops, thanks for the tip, I got it now. I'm removing it presently. Sorry bout that, we definitely don't mean to abuse LittleRusty Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 10255 Location: Santa Clara, Ca Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:23 pm Post subject: No problem.

It really isn't my job to correct anyway. If you have a website you might want to add it to your signature so people who might be interested in your merchandise could find you. Retlaw Heavyweight Member Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3241 Location: UK Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:01 am Post subject: Anyone know how Robert Rowe is? Have not heard from him here on TH for a long time.

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I am just surprised that Universal themselves were not interested! I made this track listing long ago, with 18 tracks Visage 3.53 Blocks on Blocks 4.00 The Dancer 3.40 Tar 3.32 Fade To Grey 4.00 Malpaso Man 4.14 Mind of a Toy 4.28 Moon over Moscow 4.00 Visa-Age 4.18 The Steps 3.14 We Move 4.00 (B-side Mind of a Toy) Fade To Grey (Dance Mix) 6.41 Frequency 7 (3.05) (B-side Tar) Mind of a Toy (Dance Mix) 5.14 We Move (Dance Mix) 6.28 Frequency 7 (Dance Mix) 5.02 Visage (Dance Mix) 6.01 Second Steps 5.26 (B-side Visage) But I never bothered to calculate if they all fit onto one CD. There is also more or less related: Fade To Grey 6.14 German extended edit In the Year 2525 (1978 demo) The Eve of Destruction (1978 demo) All the King's Horses (1978 demo) Ronny: If You Want Me to Stay 4.17 (project 1981 single) Ronny: If You Want Me to Stay (instrumental 12' B-side) 5.50 Ronny: If You Want Me to Stay (Dance Mix) 5.50 I am sure if you had access to the archives, you could easily fill two CDs. PS mind the indexing, several tracks, as you know, bridge into each other and on the official 10-track CD the indexing is off on some tracks. (I made my own CD-R many years ago to avoid that annoying fact) Best of luck/Jonas The Jet Set Posts: 876 Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:03 am Location: Sweden. Discoginfo wrote:Great news! I am just surprised that Universal themselves were not interested!

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I made this track listing long ago, with 18 tracks Visage 3.53 Blocks on Blocks 4.00 The Dancer 3.40 Tar 3.32 Fade To Grey 4.00 Malpaso Man 4.14 Mind of a Toy 4.28 Moon over Moscow 4.00 Visa-Age 4.18 The Steps 3.14 We Move 4.00 (B-side Mind of a Toy) Fade To Grey (Dance Mix) 6.41 Frequency 7 (3.05) (B-side Tar) Mind of a Toy (Dance Mix) 5.14 We Move (Dance Mix) 6.28 Frequency 7 (Dance Mix) 5.02 Visage (Dance Mix) 6.01 Second Steps 5.26 (B-side Visage) But I never bothered to calculate if they all fit onto one CD. There is also more or less related: Fade To Grey 6.14 German extended edit In the Year 2525 (1978 demo) The Eve of Destruction (1978 demo) All the King's Horses (1978 demo) Ronny: If You Want Me to Stay 4.17 (project 1981 single) Ronny: If You Want Me to Stay (instrumental 12' B-side) 5.50 Ronny: If You Want Me to Stay (Dance Mix) 5.50 I am sure if you had access to the archives, you could easily fill two CDs. PS mind the indexing, several tracks, as you know, bridge into each other and on the official 10-track CD the indexing is off on some tracks.

(I made my own CD-R many years ago to avoid that annoying fact) Best of luck/Jonas I think Ronny's stuff should be released separately with all her singles, remixes and b sides if it were to happen. Room at the Top Posts: 1838 Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:51 am Location: USA. The tracklisting is approximately 78 minutes and is as follows. Again, all newly remastered specifically for this release.

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Oh, and I did attempt to contact Rusty Egan to see if he would be interested in being involved. His response made it very clear he has absolutely no interest in participating: 1. Blocks on Blocks 3. The Dancer 4. Fade to Grey 6.

Malpaso Man 7. Mind of a Toy 8. Moon Over Moscow 9. The Steps Bonus Tracks: 11. Fade to Grey (Dance Mix) 13. Mind of a Toy (Dance Mix) 14.

Visage (Dance Mix) 15. We Move (Dance Mix) 16. Frequency 7 (Dance Mix) 17.

Second Steps.

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